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		<title>By: l.v.</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-8263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l.v.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of these [ http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MX882.aspx ] and you can parallel split/mix 6 pedals at once I guess (not sure about the balanced/unbalanced thing though - it only has XLR ins/outs....?) 

Dunno but maybe this dude [http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/155-rushs-alex-lifeson-guitar-gear-rig-and-equipment] used it for that very application..?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of these [ <a href="http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MX882.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MX882.aspx</a> ] and you can parallel split/mix 6 pedals at once I guess (not sure about the balanced/unbalanced thing though &#8211; it only has XLR ins/outs&#8230;.?) </p>
<p>Dunno but maybe this dude [http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/155-rushs-alex-lifeson-guitar-gear-rig-and-equipment] used it for that very application..?</p>
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		<title>By: GoofyDawg</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-6922</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice. Parallel is good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice. Parallel is good.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-6921</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out Empress Arts Multi drive, this product has fuzz, overdrive and distortion. They run parallel not stacked, so it like blending 3 amps together. 3 band eq along with other filters and eq switches make this pedal very tweakable. Check it out on Youtube, it&#039;s like 3 pedals in 1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Empress Arts Multi drive, this product has fuzz, overdrive and distortion. They run parallel not stacked, so it like blending 3 amps together. 3 band eq along with other filters and eq switches make this pedal very tweakable. Check it out on Youtube, it&#8217;s like 3 pedals in 1.</p>
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		<title>By: bmcfearin</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-6720</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent article! no one at the guitar shop could explain like this---  50+ beginner---]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent article! no one at the guitar shop could explain like this&#8212;  50+ beginner&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-6595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found some interesting models of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mayones.com.ua/en/katalog/signature_guitars.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mayones guitars&lt;/a&gt;. What can you say about this line ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found some interesting models of <a href="http://www.mayones.com.ua/en/katalog/signature_guitars.html" rel="nofollow">Mayones guitars</a>. What can you say about this line ?</p>
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		<title>By: Nakisha Twedell</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-6544</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have dealt with some curious points here. I found this article by using Bing and I must admit that I am currently subscribed to the site, it is very decent :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have dealt with some curious points here. I found this article by using Bing and I must admit that I am currently subscribed to the site, it is very decent <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Welcome! &#171; Guitar Gear</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-5362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Welcome! &#171; Guitar Gear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Overdrive vs. Distortion [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: GoofyDawg</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-4840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GoofyDawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no sense to tone... I&#039;ll be the first to admit that. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no sense to tone&#8230; I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-4839</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you think a Distortion pedal is doing? Thats solid state clipping. You see, here&#039;s the rub...many people who say they love tubes actually prefer solid state clipping--thats why a billion pedals are sold each year. People put a 90 dollar pedal in front of their 2000 dollar tube amp because they want to stiffen up the tube sound--they want a firmer sound--a solid state sound. A Tube screamer- being the destroyer of tube sound- is the biggest offender--as it doesnt scream the tubes--it bypasses the tube sag on the lowend making the sound stiff and plastic in the midrange. Put simply, guitar players are idiots :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think a Distortion pedal is doing? Thats solid state clipping. You see, here&#8217;s the rub&#8230;many people who say they love tubes actually prefer solid state clipping&#8211;thats why a billion pedals are sold each year. People put a 90 dollar pedal in front of their 2000 dollar tube amp because they want to stiffen up the tube sound&#8211;they want a firmer sound&#8211;a solid state sound. A Tube screamer- being the destroyer of tube sound- is the biggest offender&#8211;as it doesnt scream the tubes&#8211;it bypasses the tube sag on the lowend making the sound stiff and plastic in the midrange. Put simply, guitar players are idiots <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: goofydawg</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3817</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:) It&#039;s all good, Jon! Thanks for the contribution!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s all good, Jon! Thanks for the contribution!</p>
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		<title>By: jon.mithe</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3816</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah lol, didnt thoroughly read the last paragraph where you went into clipping, good stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah lol, didnt thoroughly read the last paragraph where you went into clipping, good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon.mithe</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3815</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article / topic but I&#039;m not convinced.  I believe the difference lies in the type of clipping.  

Overdrive was when you drive past the limits of analog componentry. As this was analog, you tend to get soft clipping rather than a more digital hard clip. I.e. overdrive /soft clipping is where the top / bottom of the waveforms are compressed -&gt; some crazing = overdrive. 

Though the wonders of science, you can hard clip things, so rather than compress the waveform over a certain limit you just chop it off = distortion.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Clipping_compared_to_limiting.svg

Shows, 2nd one down being hard clipping, the wave forms are just chopped off, the last one being soft clipping, the tops are compressed.

So what does this all mean?  An overdrive with soft clipping retains some shape / character of the waveform, so its likely to be less crazy and muddy.  I.e. when you play things like chords when the waveforms interfere which each other, overdrive sounds good.  Distortion on the other hand with the hard clip takes alot of the character of the wave form is lost, in turn gives a higher, flatter distortion and more importantly since the wave forms loose alot of their character multiple waves do not interact well -&gt; chords sounding horrible. Look at the amount of clipping -&gt; distortions give you more &quot;compression&quot; than overdrives (= flatter / smoother)

So if I want to enhance the sound of my guitar and let its sound shine, play chords etc then an overdrive ftw.  If I want to flatten my sound a bit (lead), have some higher gain or something along those lines, then distortion ftw (or extreme overdrive which will be the same).

Unfortunately some pedal manufacturers are using either for whatever is more marketable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article / topic but I&#8217;m not convinced.  I believe the difference lies in the type of clipping.  </p>
<p>Overdrive was when you drive past the limits of analog componentry. As this was analog, you tend to get soft clipping rather than a more digital hard clip. I.e. overdrive /soft clipping is where the top / bottom of the waveforms are compressed -&gt; some crazing = overdrive. </p>
<p>Though the wonders of science, you can hard clip things, so rather than compress the waveform over a certain limit you just chop it off = distortion.</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Clipping_compared_to_limiting.svg" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Clipping_compared_to_limiting.svg</a></p>
<p>Shows, 2nd one down being hard clipping, the wave forms are just chopped off, the last one being soft clipping, the tops are compressed.</p>
<p>So what does this all mean?  An overdrive with soft clipping retains some shape / character of the waveform, so its likely to be less crazy and muddy.  I.e. when you play things like chords when the waveforms interfere which each other, overdrive sounds good.  Distortion on the other hand with the hard clip takes alot of the character of the wave form is lost, in turn gives a higher, flatter distortion and more importantly since the wave forms loose alot of their character multiple waves do not interact well -&gt; chords sounding horrible. Look at the amount of clipping -&gt; distortions give you more &#8220;compression&#8221; than overdrives (= flatter / smoother)</p>
<p>So if I want to enhance the sound of my guitar and let its sound shine, play chords etc then an overdrive ftw.  If I want to flatten my sound a bit (lead), have some higher gain or something along those lines, then distortion ftw (or extreme overdrive which will be the same).</p>
<p>Unfortunately some pedal manufacturers are using either for whatever is more marketable.</p>
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		<title>By: goofydawg</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3796</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you&#039;re describing is two different kinds of distortion. I don&#039;t know all the tech stuff behind all that acoustic theory, but symmetric distortion has to do with odd-ordered harmonics while assymetric distortion has to do with even-ordered harmonics. While it&#039;s not necessarily academically recognized, a good discussion of this subject can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_sound.

With respect to overdrive vs. distortion, remember, in the strict sense, overdrive or over-powering causes distortion. The two terms really aren&#039;t interchangeable as far as I understand. 

I think a lot of the confusion comes from people describing the distortion they hear; for instance, &quot;It sounds like an overdriven amp.&quot; Unfortunately, a lot of people mistake the &quot;overdrive&quot; term when it&#039;s used that way as distortion. Overdrive relates to input gain, whereas distortion is purely output and the result of input gain exceeding output capacity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re describing is two different kinds of distortion. I don&#8217;t know all the tech stuff behind all that acoustic theory, but symmetric distortion has to do with odd-ordered harmonics while assymetric distortion has to do with even-ordered harmonics. While it&#8217;s not necessarily academically recognized, a good discussion of this subject can be found here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_sound" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_sound</a>.</p>
<p>With respect to overdrive vs. distortion, remember, in the strict sense, overdrive or over-powering causes distortion. The two terms really aren&#8217;t interchangeable as far as I understand. </p>
<p>I think a lot of the confusion comes from people describing the distortion they hear; for instance, &#8220;It sounds like an overdriven amp.&#8221; Unfortunately, a lot of people mistake the &#8220;overdrive&#8221; term when it&#8217;s used that way as distortion. Overdrive relates to input gain, whereas distortion is purely output and the result of input gain exceeding output capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: goofydawg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t found a solid state amp that can overdrive with anything even resembling good distortion. Most of the time the distortion they produce is because of a model of some sorts. I used to play with a Roland JC-120 - great amp! That was nothing but clean, but I loved it because it took to pedals so well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t found a solid state amp that can overdrive with anything even resembling good distortion. Most of the time the distortion they produce is because of a model of some sorts. I used to play with a Roland JC-120 &#8211; great amp! That was nothing but clean, but I loved it because it took to pedals so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So an overdrive is more of a symmetrical wave and a distortion asymmetrical?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So an overdrive is more of a symmetrical wave and a distortion asymmetrical?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3792</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about Solid State Amps? How do you get a good sounding distortion from them? Clipping transistors do not sound good IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Solid State Amps? How do you get a good sounding distortion from them? Clipping transistors do not sound good IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: 56lp</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3791</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the clarifications.]]></description>
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		<title>By: brandon</title>
		<link>http://guitargear.org/2009/11/05/overdrive-vs-distortion/#comment-3790</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great explaination!!!]]></description>
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